My conversation with Grok

I enjoy a good debate of important issues. But you can't have a quality debate with just anyone because people with different viewpoints than your own are often led by emotion rather than reason. If someone quickly resorts to insults and name calling rather than addressing what it is you said and why they feel it is incorrect, it's best to abort that mission. The person is either intellectually incapable or simply not interested in attempting to persuade by presentation of facts. Say what you will about Artificial Intelligence (I've certainly had unflattering things to say about it), but at least it attempts to stick to what's reasonable and probable and pertinent rather than hurling insults when it doesn't like what you said. When Elon Musk claimed on Twitter that @Grok has been significantly improved in answer giving, I decided to put it to the test. Its debate technique was to ask me questions in return rather than truly answering what I had asked, as well as consistent reference to the Heritage Foundation. Admittedly, my question was an accusation. So when Grok requested examples of my claim, for me to prove that I was not being partisan just for the hell of it, I provided two to get the ball rolling.

I invite any polite humans willing to engage in civil discourse to answer my two-part question. Below is what Grok had to say in response, and my rebuttals, and so on and so forth. Pick a winner if you wish. In the end, while I believe in being open to having my mind changed by a potent counter argument, I remained unswayed by Grok's replies.

                                             

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

      

   

   

   

WHAT HE SAID...

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Texas camp flood turns deadly on July Fourth; beloved director dies saving campers https://t.co/AzJfIt4BE5

— 13News Now (@13NewsNow) July 6, 2025

Pope Leo offered prayers for Texas flood victims Sunday, urging compassion as search crews comb debris fields for survivors. Camp Mystic had 700 girls in residence when the river rose 26 feet in 45 minutes. https://t.co/JCAMw8ETJh #TexasFloods

— james jackson (@jackgoesvirtual) July 6, 2025

At least 51 people, including 15 children, are dead and 27 girls remain missing after a flash flood devastated Kerr County, Texas, and Camp Mystic, as rescuers continue searching and questions mount over emergency preparedness and warnings https://t.co/xloXrb4hIV

— FireRescue1 (@FireRescue1) July 6, 2025

Even Grok gets it, that Trump and Musk contributed to this Texas disaster: pic.twitter.com/aFux5NlkY4

— Steven Scott Reynolds (@SteveSReynolds) July 5, 2025

 

If Grok gets any more woke, it’s going to qualify for job on The View.

— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) July 5, 2025

Thanks Joe - Go Kamala Go

 

                                           The time is now

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— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) July 21, 2024

A reminder from the archive: pic.twitter.com/lhPQJF2tFJ

— Morten Morland (@mortenmorland) July 21, 2024

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🚨 BREAKING: Hunter Biden releases statement on President Biden's decision:

“For my entire life, I’ve looked at my dad in awe. How could he suffer so much heartache and yet give so much of whatever remained of his heart to others?

“Not only in the policies he passed, but in… pic.twitter.com/o7h3Ul50E7

— Chris D. Jackson (@ChrisDJackson) July 21, 2024

Joe Biden has been one of America’s most consequential presidents, as well as a dear friend and partner to me. Today, we’ve also been reminded – again – that he’s a patriot of the highest order.

Here’s my full statement: https://t.co/Bs2ZumFXxe

— Barack Obama (@BarackObama) July 21, 2024

Let me explain why Kamala Harris presents a much bigger challenge to Trump than Joe Biden does:

Generational Shift: Harris is a much younger candidate, aligning with the preference of many Americans who want to see a younger leader.

New Messaging: Harris could introduce a fresh… pic.twitter.com/KqxLTnegpp

— Ed Krassenstein (@EdKrassen) July 18, 2024

“I mean, what has Kamala Harris even accomplished as Vice President anyway?!?”

I’m so glad you asked! Get comfortable🧵

(1/2) pic.twitter.com/EQWibPOyXo

— Kaylan_TX (@Kaylan_TX_) July 21, 2024

Two old dudes ran for POTUS, one to stay in the job and the other to get it back. 1 got shot at, the other began to wear down before our eyes from blows by Father Time. 1 finally gave in with grace for the good of party/country. The other found the largest band-aid for a scratch.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) July 22, 2024

The one “gaffe” that Joe Biden could not overcome was aging. Heckuva run as POTUS though. Ran the joint with both brains and heart. Curious to see how he wraps things up.https://t.co/ggxy3Rj0US

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) July 22, 2024

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— OkieKimono (@OkieKimono) July 22, 2024

JD Vance seeing what’s happening and looking at Trump like pic.twitter.com/zlPtwB7Thr

— Ben Howe (@BenHowe) July 21, 2024

I'm impressed that #RacistTwitter held off on trending "She's Indian", despite seeing JD Vance's wife at the RNC convention, until today in honor of Kamala Harris. pic.twitter.com/ZM3bIboyw1

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) July 22, 2024

Both sides are not the same. pic.twitter.com/V7t10KVi0v

— Jeffrey Ⓥ (@LiftForever67) July 22, 2024

When Joe picked Kamala it was “DEI” but when Kamala picks a straight white dude from a swing state it’s “strategic.”

Got it.

— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) July 22, 2024

Kamala’s menu of potential VPs pic.twitter.com/JUf9BSFodM

— Zack Bornstein (@ZackBornstein) July 21, 2024

https://t.co/YdUJ1IoMtW pic.twitter.com/ZiUWpWVKXU

— chris evans (@notcapnamerica) July 21, 2024

Beats me, although I did try to answer that question for the sake of my sanity.https://t.co/rwvE2hDEKb

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) July 21, 2024

Electoral College system is 🗑️ and a simple way to actually make America great again is to get rid of it and use basic math. Electoral College system is even more ridiculous than Common Core math. Regular math remains RIGHT THERE. https://t.co/LUHV1sh0EX

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) July 21, 2024

So many laptop jabs that will now remain in Draft

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) July 22, 2024

When you're personally for nothing (except shutting down a border, which will never be accomplished) all you have left is to be anti-opponent and hope it sticks. 87% of Trump's campaign was "Joe is sleepy". Never mind that Biden's term >>>>>> Trump's. What's he going to pivot to?

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) July 21, 2024

Lorne Michaels better be clearing Maya Rudolph’s schedule pic.twitter.com/FA0avXXrZo

— Rohita Kadambi (@RohitaKadambi) July 21, 2024

Even Donald Trump thinks Kamala Harris is great! I hope MAGAs don't see this. 🤣🤣🤣 pic.twitter.com/Vjjp8qLeLb

— Alex Cole (@acnewsitics) July 21, 2024

I made this one years ago, but right now it tells you EVERYTHING you need to know. pic.twitter.com/owUb6Mpqsy

— PaulleyTicks (@PaulleyTicks) July 21, 2024

This, my friends, is what they call a mic drop.#PresidentHarris2024 pic.twitter.com/XIe32ckW25

— Mary L. Trump (@MaryLTrump) July 21, 2024

Three of the most popular people in the entire history of this country are Michelle Obama (check her book sales for proof), Oprah Winfrey (check her ratings),and Beyonce (check her album sales). So there's that. https://t.co/MTnZq7O06U

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) July 21, 2024

#CrooksWasARegisteredRepublican who used a gun that is accessible to lunatics because of Republicans .

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) July 21, 2024

He thought for a second it was Ivanka. Then he realized it wasn’t. pic.twitter.com/xkWm92Xw12

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) July 19, 2024

Project 2025 now knows how Tiffany feels. https://t.co/j8smWlVWK8

— Greta (@GretaGrace20) July 20, 2024

BOOM! CNN just fact checked every single one of Donald Trump’s lies in his RNC speech tonight! This is truly humiliating for Trump. We need more of this!!! pic.twitter.com/CALAvUajtn

— Harry Sisson (@harryjsisson) July 19, 2024

When all is said and done, unelected Trump will be going to jail. I can continue to be patient.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) July 21, 2024

While I wait, I will be supporting Kamala Harris to be the next President of the United States. 

Be sure to vote in November as if Democracy (among other things) depends on it.

NEW from @KamalaHQ >>

We raised $81 MILLION in the first 24 hours of her campaign.

That is the LARGEST 24 hour raise in history. pic.twitter.com/0oE8dZkxsX

— Ammar Moussa (@ammarmufasa) July 22, 2024

A New Start at a New Start

 

Gallup's final polling for the Trump presidency is out. His final approval rating was 34%.

He leaves the only president never to hit 50% job approval at any point in his presidency and is the least popular president in Gallup's polling historyhttps://t.co/leRonGoGJ8

— Mark Berman (@markberman) January 19, 2021

The Trump presidency was instructive in that it showed most every flaw in reach of powers that are bestowed upon a US president. We always knew that a POTUS is not a king or a dictator. But there are so many get out of jail free cards with the job that when we elect a corrupt one

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) January 19, 2021

A president can potentially act like a king/dictator. It needs the cooperation of an equally corrupt party with enough #'s to override the other party's attempt to rein him in. #45 was the perfect storm of a morally bankrupt POTUS and enabling GOP. Such a combo may never reoccur.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) January 19, 2021

But we should assume that it can and will. Never again should we need to ponder idiotic questions like "can the president commit any/every crime under the sun and then self-pardon himself when done?". If that's what the founding father intended, they're not as smart as credited.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) January 19, 2021

Will Americans be foolish enough to elect someone as clearly corrupt and unqualified as Trump was to be POTUS ever again? I certainly would not put it past us. What we can do now is take measures to ensure that if/when there is a Trump II, whether it's a Republican or Democrat...

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) January 19, 2021

the next go around it won't be so easy to run around the Oval acting like Napoleon Bonaparte. If Putin manages to find someone else who is in enough debt that he can be purchased, one who is able to charm enough people to be elected POTUS, we need to be ready to keep him in check

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) January 19, 2021

So, Trump's presidency ended because?

— Chip Franklin InsideTheBeltway.com (@chipfranklin) January 17, 2021

Black people showed UP and showed out!

They delivered GA (twice), MI, WI & PA https://t.co/APbYgb4XFs

— Pam Keith, Esq. (@PamKeithFL) January 17, 2021

Not that I'm overly thrilled by this being the correct answer, because it means Trump becoming president in the first place & making a mess of this country rather than putting the clearly more qualified Hillary Clinton in the Oval Office can be pinned on poorly timed Black apathy

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) January 17, 2021

And here’s a look back at the response to last summer’s Black Lives Matter protests.https://t.co/IYTfawbWe5

— Barack Obama (@BarackObama) January 8, 2021

Black people never stormed the Capitol. Gay people never stormed the Capitol. Women never stormed the Capitol. Japanese Americans never stormed the Capitol. Native Americans never stormed the Capitol. Many groups with legit claims of unfair/unequal treatment throughout US history

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) January 18, 2021

never stormed the Capitol because that is not how non-traitorous Americans strive to have their grievances addressed. You know who did storm the Capitol? A bunch of whining, traitorous, entitled bigots who should be thrown in jail along with anyone who encouraged or aided them.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) January 18, 2021

People stormed the Capitol b/c they didn't get what they wanted, which was for the man who by a huge margin is the worst POTUS ever to be gifted with a 2nd term he couldn't win. Anyone who speaks supportively of this agenda should be literally branded on the forehead as a traitor

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) January 18, 2021

I see his name trending. Hopefully we finally have learned that peaceful protest of American policies is not lack of patriotism, but patriotism itself. If we haven't, his name will surely trend again. A Line A Day: Colin #Kaepernick sits this one out https://t.co/JVUusKTtnk

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) January 19, 2021

“Thank you, but f*ck you for being there”
Watch every second of this DC metro officers interview with CNN. pic.twitter.com/zUOafxRdBU

— David Begnaud (@DavidBegnaud) January 15, 2021

Stop saying history will judge them. Judge them now. With judges.

— Joe Sondow (@JoeSondow) January 7, 2021

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As we arrive at the end of a fatal error, I look back at the start of a far more hopeful era. A Line A Day: 1-20-09 https://t.co/onps1QxGmF

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) January 19, 2021

 

HOW DID WE GET HERE?

A Donald Trump cake being wheeled into Trump Tower @abc #ElectionDay pic.twitter.com/HSkHChfUSA

— Jason Volack (@jasonvolack) November 8, 2016

Removes "cake" from list of favorite foods. https://t.co/DnE88eZdW7

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 9, 2016

that it wasn't just the radicalism of the GOP, but deep hatred in a large segment of the population. How do we move forward? 2/

— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) November 9, 2016

Dear America,

“I can't believe what you say, because I see what you do.”

― James Baldwin

— Desiree Adaway (@desireeadaway) November 9, 2016

Going from Mr. Obama to Trump will be like going from...like from Obama to Trump. I can't think of an equally ludicrous comparison scenario.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 9, 2016

There are 2 bald eagles trapped in a Florida sewer drain. This is more allegory than I can handle right now. pic.twitter.com/5f6YPHv7rB

— Justin Brannan (@JustinBrannan) November 10, 2016

Don't forget: Hillary Clinton is the first woman in our nation's history to win the popular vote in a presidential election.

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) November 10, 2016

Least satisfying tweet ever https://t.co/jH2YeVzjlI

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 11, 2016

There are > people who oppose Trump than the amount whom he speaks to/for. But thanks in large part to antiquated electoral college system..

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 11, 2016

Calling protesters pros incited by media rather than Americans you serve & must make peace with is a real bad start https://t.co/e9ofntfmpc

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 11, 2016

I'm not going to call out names but I'm watching some "you gotta EARN my vote, Hillary" people now FINALLY afraid of a Trump presidency.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 9, 2016

I know the election is over, but still wondering about the "she needs to EARN my vote", people. Did Hillary manage to earn it or nah?

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 10, 2016

If Hillary didn't earn your vote, or if you convinced any weak minded people that she hadn't earned it, well, no need to say what result is.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 10, 2016

Trump has been who is from day 1. Hillary was the only viable alternative from day 2 or 3 once it was clear that it wouldn't be Bernie.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 14, 2016

If u weren't willing 2 throw full support behind Hillary, even if 4 no better reason than her opponent, I don't want 2 hear u hate Trump NOW

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 14, 2016

That ship has sailed. I'm done telling y'all that Trump is garbage https://t.co/1thKf3keuL & Hillary HAD 2b our pick https://t.co/uubyHGaGFz

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 14, 2016

We got what we allowed ourselves to get and now have no choice but to deal with whatever horror comes next. Hopefully not as bad as we fear.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 14, 2016

Whatever it's gonna be, it was hella avoidable. We simply needed to recognize the danger and the rescue from it that we were being offered.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 14, 2016

Ppl wasted time interrupting Bernie Sanders speeches & insisting that Hillary "earn our vote" instead of making certain Trump wasn't elected

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 14, 2016

A Trump victory is forcing America to confront its own ugliness https://t.co/aOuCPLUwXm pic.twitter.com/Rib8SmsD4B

— Splinter (@splinter_news) November 11, 2016

This guy's mindset IMHO is what led to Trump win. Obama didn't push him over the edge. Audacity of #BLM movement did https://t.co/6rDbKLYOFt

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 11, 2016

The presence of Obama in the White for 2 terms provided fuel for #BLM to get started, I grant that. But Obama could have won a 3rd term.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 11, 2016

Obama backlash would have made him a 1 term president so this isn't that. #BlackLivesMatter movement backlash? Argument can be made I'd say

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 9, 2016

There is a fine but critical line of distinction between righteous indignation & anger. Movements thrive on former, fall flat on latter.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 11, 2016

You know who doesn't give a sh*t whose lives you think matter? Our next president, that's who. He'll look out for him & his. #VotingMatters

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 9, 2016

People saying Trump performing well indicates bigots fighting back vs Obama fail to see there were just as many bigots 4 and 8 years ago.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 9, 2016

Majority of people simply do not want to be called privileged, which in 2016 is practical a curse/slur. They feel they earned what they got.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 11, 2016

When Hillary called them deplorables, which basically meant not even a teensy bit ashamed of their privilege, that was final straw.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 11, 2016

So many folks got pissed and Trump fed them just the right food they craved. None of the other GOP candidates were feeding their hunger.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 11, 2016

Trump shares 1 quality with Obama. He was seen by many as a symbol & literal CHANGE. Hillary, despite gender, was portrayed as more of same.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 10, 2016

Change to move forward and change to go back are different from each other in direction but similar in appeal and impact.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 10, 2016

if mlk and the suffragettes had just marched to feel good and raise awareness, blacks and women wouldnt have the vote

— Oliver Willis (@owillis) November 10, 2016

A rally/march to make statement & create visual is a fine start. Hashtivism isn't a bad thing. But 2 win the fight so much more must be done

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 10, 2016

Too many young people think gathering together for a cause (easier than ever to arrange in social media era) is the be all end all.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 11, 2016

Moscow had contacts with Trump team during campaign, Russian diplomat sayshttps://t.co/9wTEE0zQKG

— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) November 10, 2016

Only vital that he's booting Muslims, making wall, rejecting gays & flipping Roe v Wade. ps #bluelivesandgunsmatter https://t.co/xZVYIvX7Ho

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 10, 2016

Trump is the only man ever to win the presidency with no political, diplomatic or military executive experience https://t.co/GW3a66P1tu

— CNN (@CNN) November 10, 2016

We can play this game all day. They don't care if he dodges military service, taxes & lawsuits. They don't care. https://t.co/X1iVjre19i

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 10, 2016

At some point we'll realize that the things being exposed about Trump don't matter AT ALL to those who voted for him.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 10, 2016

#MyWishForTheFuture is simple, clear, tangible, achievable. I simply want no more US presidents who the KKK rooted for & endorsed. Dassit!

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 10, 2016

Voter turnout dropped to a 20-year low in 2016 https://t.co/eAFmBzHieU pic.twitter.com/AcbbrARu5k

— CNN (@CNN) November 11, 2016

How can this be if people realized the urgency of what was at stake? Or did people somehow fail to grasp it? How? https://t.co/gcJKnBsMWm

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 11, 2016

Trump laid waste to the Republican and Democratic Party establishment. The same holds for the black political class. Let's get to work.

— Eddie S. Glaude Jr. (@esglaude) November 11, 2016

The next 4 years will probably not have a shortage of things to fight for or against. To win you'll need to sweat & get your hands dirty.

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 10, 2016

Time for us to get to work! pic.twitter.com/TWxHjcYRwL

— Roy L. Pickering Jr. (@AuthorofPatches) November 11, 2016

MESSAGE TO TRUMP SUPPORTERS WHO ARE NOW ACTING SHOCKED AND DISMAYED THAT PEOPLE ARE UPSET AND HAVE CHOSEN TO PROTEST HIS ELECTION, NOT THAT PROTESTING IT WILL CHANGE THE ELECTION RESULT, BUT PERHAPS MR. TRUMP WILL RECOGNIZE THAT THE WIND HE HAS STIRRED UP DOES NOT BLOW IN ONLY ONE DIRECTION.

Why are there people upset at those who are upset that Trump was elected president? Those people have CLEARLY given their reasons - because of the many well documented abhorrent things Trump has said and done over the years. Even if you believe he's bluffing about deporting and wall building, or locker room bantering about stuff like groping women, there are still terrible things that are beyond dispute such as him belittling people verbally and profiling African Americans so they couldn't rent apartments in his building. Why be bothered by people who are angry and disrespectful towards a single person (no matter how important a job he now has, Trump's still just one very flawed man), but you were never upset about millions/billions of people that he apparently sees as lesser humans? This amounts to co-signing that you feel some people are inherently inferior to others. Can't you see that? If not, why not? For the love of God, the man's election is being celebrated by the Klu Klux Klan. How can you not understand why this would be upsetting to people? You are familiar with what the KKK represents, right? I'm not saying Trump's a member, but he barely bothered to disavow David Duke so if the hood fits. Why does this not bother YOU? Because Trump is soon to be THE PRESIDENT? If so then why weren't you upset when he falsely accused the sitting president of being a foreign born Muslim no matter how much evidence to the contrary was presented. Could it be that the office of president was no big deal to you for the past 8 years, but suddenly it's prestigious again now that Trump has been elected? I certainly don't co-sign outlandish statements such as calls to assassinate. Of course that's ridiculous. But why should protests and facebook statuses upset you? They're not about YOU. They're about this man who has been elected president of the entire United States of America who has been incredibly disrespectful towards a large % of its citizens. Or could it be that you're upset because you do co-sign his disrespect and superiority complex towards others of other races/religions/gender? Please tell me that isn't so. If it isn't, then respect the rights of others to be very bothered by Trump's election just as citizens of this nation have always used their freedom of speech to express dismay over various matters that have troubled them about this country. The Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964, Loving vs State of Virginia ruling was in 1967. Not exactly ancient history. So of course people have the right to be very worried that certain inalienable rights are suddenly very much in danger of being revoked as result of the 2016 elections. You don't have to be worried or upset yourself. I won't insist that you feel empathy. But you can at least understand why others are troubled. This country was founded on the concept of protest after all.


                         MATTERS OF CONVENIENCE

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